Session Start: Fri Dec 07 00:00:00 2012
Session Ident: #glitchpc
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[00:32]<Tux2> lol Craig, quite interesting
[00:33]<Tux2> For my job though, I never have to go into windows. ;)
[00:33]<Craig> I thought it was, now I have watched about 4 of their video's, its awesome
[00:33]<Craig> :P hahahaha
[00:33]<Tux2> My windows hard drive gets used about every couple of months
[00:34]<@BC_Programming> Wait are they actually ragging on Linux or is it a satire or what
[00:34]<Tux2> It's pointing out real flaws in the OS and ways to fix them
[00:34]<@BC_Programming> Fair enough
[00:34]<@BC_Programming> they could always issue Pull requests! heheh
[00:34]<Craig> Its the truth, Linux does suck for all those reasons, they have a continuation that talks about how and why Linux is awesome too.
[00:35]<@BC_Programming> most of the issues I think are probably with specific software packages, like desktop environments, which you can always change
[00:36]<Craig> Watch the video, be interested. :P
[00:36]<Craig> Hahahah
[00:36]<Craig> Trying to get out easy ... :P
[00:36]<@BC_Programming> not yet, massive headache atm
[00:37]<@BC_Programming> hey now I'm usually the <last> person to be defending Linux, but polarizing titles like that are just silly no matter what their content is, IMO
[00:37]<Craig> :P
[00:38]<@BC_Programming> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/12/portals-physics-engine-rebuilt-in-25kb-on-a-graphing-calculator/
[00:39]<Craig> WAOW....
[00:58]<@BC_Programming> lol
[00:58]<@BC_Programming> "I'l start picking people to leave based on attractiveness if we don't get more volunteers"
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[02:50]<@BC_Programming> hmmm I feel like visiting my old areas in my Minecraft world
[02:50]<@BC_Programming> like the skeleton cannon
Session Start: Fri Dec 07 03:05:09 2012
Session Ident: #glitchpc
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[08:47]<+camerongray> Tux2, You there
[08:48]<@jacky> ----->>>>
[08:48]<+camerongray> lol
[08:48]<@jacky> heh
[08:48]<@jacky> camerongray: Hello
[08:48]<+camerongray> hey
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[08:53]<+camerongray> Gah, Stupid TV is messing up again
[09:01]<+camerongray> Half a roll of selotape later, I've half fixed it
[09:02]<sonicrules1234> What's selotape?
[09:02]<+camerongray> Sticky tape
[09:02]<sonicrules1234> Isn't all tape sticky?
[09:02]<+camerongray> lol
[09:03]<+camerongray> Self-adhesive strips of plasic
[09:03]<+camerongray> "Selotape" is a brand but it is often just used to describe the tape in general
[09:03]<sonicrules1234> Ah
[09:03]<sonicrules1234> What country do you live in again?
[09:03]<+camerongray> UK
[09:03]<sonicrules1234> Ah
[09:03]<+camerongray> More specifically, Scotland
[09:04]<sonicrules1234> That kinda like Band aid and Kleenex here
[09:04]<+camerongray> Yeah
[09:04]<sonicrules1234> *Thats
[09:04]<+camerongray> Still can't get the channel I want to work over the built in Digital tuner
[09:04]<+camerongray> Can get it over satelite though
[09:05]<sonicrules1234> Heh, I've got a usb digital tuner :D
[09:05]<+camerongray> lol
[09:05]<@jacky> how ironic! guess what we often call "tape" here?
[09:05]<+camerongray> My TV has it built in (They turned off the analogue signal earier this year)
[09:06]<+camerongray> lol, VHS tape?
[09:06]<@jacky> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iGt64acMFiQ/TbInh0xY73I/AAAAAAAAACk/dO2bM4dkTHo/s1600/3m%2Bscotch%2Bmagic%2Btapes%2Bproducts.jpg
[09:06]<+camerongray> lol
[09:06]<@jacky> it is "the" brand name
[09:06]<sonicrules1234> Heh, we usually don't use scotch tape here
[09:06]<+camerongray> We get Scotch tape here but usually referred to as Selotape
[09:06]<sonicrules1234> We use the generic stuff
[09:06]<sonicrules1234> What about Duct Tape?
[09:07]<@jacky> sonicrules1234: where is "here"?
[09:07]<sonicrules1234> jacky: My family
[09:07]<@jacky> what country?
[09:07]<sonicrules1234> US
[09:07]<@jacky> ah.. I overlooked a comment "generic stuff"
[09:07]<@jacky> got it now
[09:07]<+camerongray> Yeah, we have Duct tape too, and call it that
[09:08]<+camerongray> hmm, that might fix the tv better :P
[09:08]<sonicrules1234> Hahaha
[09:08]<@jacky> there are so many dumb people, that called it "duck" tape, that there is actually a brand name "duck tape" now
[09:08]<+camerongray> Yeah :P
[09:08]<sonicrules1234> jacky: xD
[09:09]<+camerongray> I bought the TV but needed a wall bracket, they only had a couple of them and I got the cheapest one, holds it too flat to the wall for the antenna plug to fit so I had to tape it in
[09:09]<@jacky> but seriously, if you can't fix it with duct tape and Bubble Yum... it ain't fixable.
[09:09]<+camerongray> lol
[09:09]<+camerongray> The TV works, except for a couple of channels
[09:09]<sonicrules1234> The mythbusters had several episodes devoted to duct tape
[09:09]<+camerongray> I sometimes need to take it down from the wall and poke the connector to get the signal back
[09:10]<@jacky> don't forget expaning foam too! that's great stuff too
[09:10]<@jacky> expanding*
[09:10]<@jacky> heh
[09:10]<+camerongray> Duct tape would work great but it would probably make a mess of it
[09:10]<sonicrules1234> Did you know that Duct tape is bad for taping Ducts?
[09:11]<+camerongray> lol, never needed to
[09:11]<@jacky> (it is bad for taping ducks, too)
[09:11]<sonicrules1234> Haha
[09:11]<@jacky> heh
[09:12]<@jacky> I wonder if something like this happened to camerongray, and that is why he is so fixated on it today?
[09:12]<@jacky> http://thumbpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/duct-tape-baby.jpg
[09:12]<+camerongray> hahaha
[09:13]<@jacky> :)
[09:13]<@jacky> http://page.crystalcomments.com/4/user2/32394.jpg
[09:14]<+camerongray> lol!
[09:14]<@jacky> taped duck, eh?
[09:14]<@jacky> hehe
[09:20]<+camerongray> The battery capacity on my phone seems to have dropped hugely in the last week
[09:22]<@jacky> wrap the battery in tape
[09:22]<@jacky> <g>
[09:24]<+camerongray> :P
[09:24]<+camerongray> Real pain though
[09:24]<+camerongray> I imagine it had a year warranty
[09:24]<+camerongray> It's a year and a week old
[09:25]<@jacky> yep
[09:25]<@jacky> the phrase is: "par for the course"
[09:25]<+camerongray> Same thing with the Set top boxes from Sky (Satellite Provider)
[09:25]<+camerongray> They usually die JUST after the warranty
[09:26]<+camerongray> And then they try to charge £400 for a replacement!
[09:26]<+camerongray> I'd be surprised if they cost more than £100
[09:26]<+camerongray> All it has is a single PCB, small PSU and a 320gb SATA Hard Drive
[09:29]<sonicrules1234> camerongray: Sounds like Apple devices
[09:29]<+camerongray> lol
[09:29]<+camerongray> At least they are full PCs
[09:29]<+camerongray> These are mostly empty boxes
[09:29]<+camerongray> And cheaply made too
[09:29]<+camerongray> Made by Amstrad
[09:30]<sonicrules1234> I wish I could get my fglrx drivers working :(
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[09:55]<+Craig> Hey Guys
[10:15]<+camerongray> Hey Craig
[10:15]<+Craig> Hey Longtime no see.
[10:15]<+Craig> What you up to?
[10:18]<+camerongray> Nothing much
[10:18]<+camerongray> Revising mainly :P
[10:29]<+Craig> Ah :P
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[12:07]<Tux2> camerongray: I'm here now
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[13:13]<Tux2> camerongray: I'm here now
[13:13]<+camerongray> Got your memo about the tekkit server
[13:13]<+camerongray> What sort of requirements does it have>
[13:14]<Tux2> 2GB of RAM, I want to up it to 4 GB though, 20GB hard drive space and a relatively fast computer and data connection
[13:14]<+camerongray> hmm
[13:15]<+camerongray> Should be able to do that
[13:15]<+camerongray> Server has 12gb RAM and 4x80gb
[13:15]<+camerongray> I plan to RAID them so would be 160gb total
[13:15]<Tux2> That's awesome. :D
[13:15]<Tux2> What's the data connection like?
[13:15]<+camerongray> Oh, that'll be a bottleneck
[13:15]<+camerongray> Only 1gbps
[13:15]<+camerongray> :P
[13:16]<Tux2> lol, sounds good then
[13:16]<+camerongray> I take it it's fine under a VM?
[13:17]<+camerongray> Will have the ability for both KVM or OpenVZ
[13:17]<Tux2> yup
[13:17]<+camerongray> Cool
[13:17]<+camerongray> Will there still be a donation system, don't need $x/mo but would be good to get a small ammount back?
[13:18]<Tux2> Of course
[13:18]<+camerongray> Nice, how much do you usually get?
[13:18]<Tux2> On the tekkit server? Around $10/month, maybe more
[13:18]<+camerongray> nice!
[13:18]<+camerongray> You'll also get an IP, ordered a /28 block for the server
[13:18]<Tux2> Although I'm wanting to ramp it up and get a huge amount of players on it
[13:18]<Tux2> :D
[13:19]<+camerongray> yeah
[13:19]<+camerongray> I'm happy as long as it doesn't slow down anything else
[13:19]<Tux2> So, I'd have to say, a 50/50 split would be fair, you're providing the hardware
[13:19]<+camerongray> Sounds good
[13:19]<Tux2> KVM would be the best then
[13:19]<+camerongray> Yeah
[13:19]<+camerongray> I take it it can't end up saturating the network port?
[13:19]<Tux2> Unless it gets ddosed
[13:19]<+camerongray> Ahh, that should be fine then
[13:20]<+camerongray> It's running a few webservers so I obviously don't want to slow them down
[13:20]<Tux2> Understood
[13:20]<+camerongray> If it comes to it I can order a second Ethernet drop
[13:20]<Tux2> Gotcha, where is the machine located?
[13:20]<+camerongray> I think it's either $10 or $5/mo, one person told me one, another told me another
[13:20]<+camerongray> Kansas City
[13:20]<Tux2> Okay
[13:20]<+camerongray> https://www.datashack.net/
[13:21]<+camerongray> Well, currently in Texas, waiting for it to be shipped
[13:21]<+camerongray> 10tb bandwith as well :D
[13:21]<+camerongray> bandwidth*
[13:21]<+camerongray> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200837777406?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619 - That's the server
[13:23]<Tux2> NICE!
[13:23]<+camerongray> From what I can find it's one of Dell's custom cloud servers for big companies
[13:23]<Tux2> lol, yeah, 2 cores out of 8? You won't notice. ;)
[13:23]<+camerongray> Yeah
[13:24]<+camerongray> And depending on money raised, I can get the RAM and disk upgraded
[13:24]<Tux2> :D
[13:24]<Tux2> Not bad
[13:25]<Tux2> Those servers can be quite noisy
[13:25]<+camerongray> Also, If the second ethernet drop is $5/mo I'll more than likely order it for the onboard management controller, since I won't use it much if it does need more B/W I can always get them to move it to the second NIC
[13:25]<+camerongray> Yeah, we have some 1U boxes at work, VERY LOUD!
[13:25]<Tux2> :D
[13:25]<+camerongray> Was rebuilding one at my desk, had to take it to the meeting room due to the noise
[13:26]<Tux2> lol!
[13:26]<Tux2> I have one of those things running constantly in my shed
[13:26]<+camerongray> And while doing that I didn't even notice the cleaner vaccuming behind me
[13:26]<+camerongray> lol
[13:26]<+camerongray> A CS24?
[13:26]<Tux2> Nope, an older model, same form factor
[13:26]<+camerongray> Ahh
[13:27]<+camerongray> We have some at work
[13:27]<+camerongray> I think there are a couple of Dell ones
[13:27]<Tux2> Ah
[13:27]<Tux2> Yeah, I got mine for $80 a couple of years ago, no hard drives
[13:28]<+camerongray> Nice
[13:28]<+camerongray> We have some really powerful ones at work
[13:28]<+camerongray> Although I've only really ever worked on a couple of older P4 ones
[13:28]<Tux2> ah
[13:30]<+camerongray> They all run FreeBSD
[13:31]<Tux2> Heh
[13:31]<Tux2> I'd want ubuntu server on my vps if possible
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[13:37]<+camerongray> Yeah, that's fine
[13:37]<+camerongray> Are you happy to take backups?
[13:38]<+camerongray> It should have RAID as long as I can get it to work
[13:38]<+camerongray> But still always best to auto-backup to a remote server
[13:38]<+camerongray> I can install webmin, it has a very nice backup system that compresses directories and uploads the .tar.gz archives over FTP on a schedule
[13:40]<+camerongray> Tux2, Have you ever used Proxmox VE?
[13:51]<Tux2> That I haven't camerongray
[13:51]<+camerongray> Ahh, cool
[13:51]<+camerongray> I'm installing it on my thinkpad to test it
[13:51]<+camerongray> *Old ThinPad
[13:51]<+camerongray> ThinkPad*
[13:52]<Tux2> Ah
[13:52]<Tux2> camerongray: I'll do my own backups if you don't mind
[13:53]<+camerongray> That's great :P
[13:53]<Tux2> It's not my first rodeo working with a server and backups. ;)
[13:53]<+camerongray> That's my worry about renting VMs, backing up
[13:53]<+camerongray> That and supprot
[13:53]<+camerongray> support*
[13:54]<+camerongray> Installing proxmox on my old laptop to test
[13:54]<+camerongray> Not super powerful but will do the job
[13:54]<+camerongray> i5 430m, 4gb RAM
[13:54]<+camerongray> Was about to sell it the other day to pay for the server
[13:54]<+camerongray> Glad I held off
[13:55]<Tux2> ah...
[13:55]<+camerongray> ThinkPad L512
[13:55]<+camerongray> Replaced it with my MBP then semi-replaced that with my x201, much to some Apple fanboy's dismay
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[14:23]<+camerongray> Tux2, Proxmox VE is SOOOO nice!
[14:24]<+camerongray> Need to figure out networking
[14:25]<Tux2> Awesome camerongray
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[14:58]<steveriley> !help
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[15:03]<+camerongray> Tux2? Still there?
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[15:17]<Tux2> camerongray: I am
[15:18]<+camerongray> Working on proxmox, having issues with networking in ubuntu
[15:18]<Tux2> Oh?
[15:18]<+camerongray> pretty sure I can get it working but if not would Debian be okay?
[15:18]<Tux2> Definitely not debian
[15:18]<+camerongray> lol, kk
[15:18]<Tux2> I would rather go with cent if you can't get ubuntu going
[15:18]<+camerongray> Cool
[15:18]<Tux2> debian is just way too out of date
[15:19]<+camerongray> I should be able to fix it, just need to play around
[15:19]<+camerongray> I was using ubuntu desktop so will try server
[15:20]<+camerongray> Do you want LTS or latest?
[15:20]<Tux2> lts
[15:20]<+camerongray> 64bit?
[15:20]<Tux2> yes
[15:21]<Tux2> if you're giving me more than 2gb
[15:21]<+camerongray> Cool
[15:21]<lucifer> So I got my geforce at better than stock temps :p
[15:21]<+camerongray> Will start with 2gb then can go up if needed
[15:21]<+camerongray> Not setting up on the actual server but just testing it out
[15:21]<+camerongray> Actual server is still awaiting dispatch
[15:22]<Tux2> gotcha
[15:22]<+camerongray> My old laptop is running surprisingly well
[15:23]<+Craig> Boo
[15:23]<+camerongray> Hey Craig
[15:23]<@Mulreay> hello
[15:23]<+camerongray> Have you used proxmox?
[15:24]<+Craig> Hey,
[15:24]<+Craig> No, never heard of it.
[15:24]<+Craig> Whats its purpose?
[15:24]<+camerongray> Virtualization
[15:24]<+Craig> ahh
[15:24]<+camerongray> With a really nice online control panel
[15:24]<+camerongray> Both KVM and OpenVZ
[15:25]<+Craig> Same kinda thing as Webmin, or more like PHPadmin?
[15:25]<+camerongray> Closer to webmin but a lot more powerful
[15:25]<+camerongray> Very nice interface
[15:25]<+camerongray> Offers stuff like a Java console to access VMs
[15:26]<+camerongray> No need to use the server directly
[15:26]<+camerongray> Can do everything through the web interface
[15:26]<@Mulreay> Craig are you available for a chat/call?
[15:27]<+camerongray> Craig, You can also cluster multiple servers and move VMs between them, while they are online!
[15:27]<+camerongray> There would only be a few seconds of downtime while the network changes
[15:45]<+camerongray> Tux2, I think I have network working in Ubuntu
[15:45]<+camerongray> I think I had a funny setting on the desktop version
[15:45]<+camerongray> Installing the server one and it is downloading packages during the install
[15:56]<Tux2> nice
[16:04]<+camerongray> Yep, ubuntu server works fine :D
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[20:14]<+FusRoDah> Craig: I got the save file back
[20:15]<+FusRoDah> thank you]
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[20:15]<@BC_Programming> what did I miss ppl
[20:16]<@Mulreay> I was playing with MC and deleted my MC save files.. I was quite distrai=ught
[20:16]<@Mulreay> distraught*
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[20:17]<@Mulreay> Craig hunted threw my system and ran stuff to find it
[20:18]<lucifer> Through not threw lol
[20:18]<@Mulreay> To be fair it didn't work and then i remembered where I had put it
[20:19]<@Mulreay> It's now backed up on 7 partitions over 2 HDD's
[20:20]<@Mulreay> Oh and hi BC_Programming
[20:20]<@BC_Programming> I made a short video of the new Minecraft fireworks
[20:20]<lucifer> Lol
[20:21]<@BC_Programming> I'm glad you are amused
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[20:22]<@Mulreay> Lol I talked to my lol housemate tonight lol about the lol and the lol we did lol about more lol... I love to lol but the lol got a little lol when we lol'd.. lol
[20:22]<@BC_Programming> lol
[20:22]<@BC_Programming> heh
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[20:33]<@Mulreay> Landlord has told me tonight he's selling the house
[20:33]<@Mulreay> And not to me
[20:33]<@BC_Programming> weak
[20:33]<@Mulreay> Couple of months
[20:34]<@Mulreay> And I had great broadband speeds
[20:37]<@Mulreay> Gonna be buggered unless my Mum and Dad can get the business moved.. living on there sofa is not a good thing
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[21:04]<@BC_Programming> God I really hate this clown. "Assembly is better than every other language"
[21:04]<@BC_Programming> meanwhile, he admits to not knowing any programming language
[21:05]<@BC_Programming> so I told him that making handwavey statements from a position of deep ignorance is not a good way to get respected, and the irony that <I> know more about Assembly language than he does just makes the entire thing sad
[21:06]<Tux2> BC_Programming: https://github.com/Bukkit/CraftBukkit/commit/8f12382e8efc8c39a919af9180dd884caf3720ff
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[21:08]<@BC_Programming> why u link that
[21:08]<Tux2> Your hunger games plugin is heavily affected by that
[21:08]<@BC_Programming> I can imagine so
[21:08]<@BC_Programming> thx
[21:08]<@BC_Programming> not sure if I'll bother to work on it again to be honest
[21:08]<Tux2> No problem
[21:09]<Tux2> Understood
[21:09]<Tux2> Not sure if I'll bother updating my plugins every minor minecraft version
[21:09]<@BC_Programming> well I have no plans too but eh I did go back to BCPixArt and get it working with the newer model too so eh
[21:09]<Tux2> lol
[21:10]<@BC_Programming> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-9qy64CheY&feature=youtu.be
[21:10]<@BC_Programming> WEE FIREWORKS
[21:12]<Tux2> Awesome. :D
[21:12]<@BC_Programming> seems like a random thing for them to add though
[21:16]<@BC_Programming> hmm not sure I like that change at all. It would make sense if they their "API" was actually an API and not a subset of what Minecraft was able to do
[21:17]<@BC_Programming> "we want people to stick to the API"
[21:17]<@BC_Programming> well, then make the API do what people need to do in their plugins
[21:27]<@BC_Programming> is that change in the latest Dev build of bukkit yet?
[21:48]<Tux2> Yes BC_Programming
[21:49]<Tux2> I'm already making my own wrapper API that I can put out there and only need to update that every minecraft version, not all my plugins that rely on it
[21:50]<@BC_Programming> cool
[21:50]<@BC_Programming> mine ses a lot of NMS stuff
[21:50]<@BC_Programming> but if I just need to change imports I guess it's not that bad, just that it might have otherwise worked
[21:51]<@BC_Programming> like when I changed from bukkit 1.3 to 1.4.2 it worked as-is, seems a bit draconian to force such a plugin to not work at all just in case
[21:55]<Tux2> Right BC_Programming?
[21:56]<Tux2> BC_Programming: any easy way to recurse an nbt structure and be able to store it in an XML format easily?
[21:56]<@BC_Programming> Wouldn't be so bad if there was an API for the cooler stuff, like entity equipment, mob spawner special tags, etc.
[21:56]<Tux2> Exactly BC_Programming
[21:57]<@BC_Programming> hmm I dunno? I thought you already figured that out for MultiInv
[21:57]<Tux2> lol, I was using xstreamer
[21:57]<Tux2> but, now, I either have to do a find/replace on load/save, or start using my own xml format
[21:58]<Tux2> http://paste.yu8.me/?76880b0c76db4e00#E59lBw5BIZf83YvR4wvYsIBzNbF0hw69yc3xT1ycf2s=
[21:59]<Tux2> That's the xml format I'm using at the moment
[21:59]<Tux2> From xstreamer
[21:59]<@BC_Programming> Honestly not to versedin Serialization stuff for Java
[22:00]<Tux2> You read in xml for your program, how do you do it?
[22:00]<Tux2> I've never had to work with xml before
[22:00]<Tux2> At least, the reading part in a program
[22:01]<@BC_Programming> the plugin? uhh... XmlDocument or something
[22:01]<@BC_Programming> I'd have to check to be sure
[22:02]<Tux2> Ah, gotcha
[22:02]<Tux2> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/NBT_format
[22:03]<@BC_Programming> yeah you can use .save() on an NBT item and save in NBT format
[22:03]<@BC_Programming> but that will be more or less binary
[22:03]<Tux2> :D
[22:03]<Tux2> I base64 encode anyways
[22:03]<Tux2> Does the .save() function output a byte array?
[22:03]<@BC_Programming> if memory serves it takes an OutputStream
[22:06]<Tux2> Hmm... NBTTagCompound does not have a save function
[22:06]<@BC_Programming> yeah I just noticed that myself
[22:06]<@BC_Programming> I could have sworn I saw it :/
[22:07]<@BC_Programming> oh wait it's obfuscated... NBTBase has an "a" static method that takes a NBTBase and a DataOutput
[22:08]<Tux2> Ah, nice!
[22:09]<@BC_Programming> can't see what else it would do if it doesn't save
[22:09]<@BC_Programming> for reading XML I used the classes in javax.xml.parsers
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[22:25]<Tux2> Ah...
[22:25]<Tux2> :) I think I found the read and write functions. :D
[22:25]<Tux2> I just have to test it
[22:25]<@BC_Programming> I think they are a and b
[22:26]<@BC_Programming> just realized something else that is not going to have an API for who knows how long- fireworks
[22:26]<Tux2> lol
[22:41]<+Craig> Anyone here good with Linux firewall rules
[22:41]<+Craig> ?
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